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novakoni


I think you are wrong - In my opinion - in football best players don't make best team - Best composed players makes best team.

And thats what missing - variety and dependence on how players, their positions and tactic influence on each other.


PRO pack owner Germany SpikeStranger


No, actually I think it's not wrong. It would be something wrong if the vast majority of 'normal tactics' wouldn't have a chance. Meaning, in such multiplayer games one should firstly make sure that it works for many people. Code the rule, not the exception to that rule.

I think it's all about resource here (computation and manpower wise).
For to make Barca's system work one would in my opinion need the possibility to set certain passing ways and paths for individual players or for players to change or swap positions. That's a hell of new things the programmers would need to code and for the engine to compute. I don't think there are enough resources for that - it's not FIFA Manager.

That does not say it wouldn't be nice if ppm could do that one day. But imho the Barca comparison right now simply goes in the wrong direction.


novakoni


Well - you named some elements the engine should have.

I know it's a big job - but I think PPM team as sellers of PPM product should be more sincere to us as consumers and buyers in spirit of good business practice :)

We have mysterious engine - supposed to be more interesting - but I think it's more because of hiding weaknesses.

I would like to know - is there a plan for making complex engine that would bring individual plays and variety in tactic ?

Maybe I am the only one who think engine and tactical aspect should be the highest priority - and I think they lost too much time on patching and some irrelevant things.


Developer of the PowerPlay Manager project vlady


This is an online game and thousands of matches must be calculated in a reasonable amount of time. We are limited by that and even now the calculation of matches on league days takes almost an hour in the most crowded time zones.

The engine does have individual plays on a certain level. I am not sure what kind of a level do you expect. We cannot simulate every single play during the 90 minutes, every single pass, every movement of every player. That's just not possible in an online game. You just sound like a broken record with this, no need to keep bringing that up.

Just because Barcelona plays some tactics and wins, doesn't mean those tactics are good for every team. As a matter of fact, there is probably no other team that plays that way. So your argument that it doesn't work for you and therefore the engine is bad is total nonsense.

I don't like the way this thread is going. It's not Q&A thread any more. Please keep it on topic.


ivan1981

I have said it several times too, Barcelona is an exception that proves the rule, really rare thing in reality. So it would not be realistic if barcas tactics and formation would work for any team.
But no one listens. I like the game the way it is, more or less, had few unlogical results lately, but nothing crazy, and I like it simplistic the way it is now. Only thing I would like is some kind of competitive matches every day. But that is my fault I dont have, I should have choosen the Credit tournament more wisely.

There is one big thing that bugs me in this game, and that is the fact that still no one told us EXACTLY how the substitutions work in case of a player being sent off. I see I am not the only one who doesnt know that, I actually think there are few, if any, who do know that EXACTLY. If some of you is reading this it would be nice to explain how to set up substiotutions in case of sent off player that if any of my def is sent off, i take out a forward, and bring in the def in the position of sent off def, and same thing for midfield players.

All else is quite nice in this game, for me. I just still dont know what to think of the free agents in football, I dont like it as an idea, but Ill revise my thoughts when I see how will all that work.


PRO pack owner Germany SpikeStranger


Yep, coming back to Q&A and concerning substitutions:
Vlady, anything new on the topic mentioned by ivan? That is, substituting defense players if one in the defense is sent off etc.


warder1983


Substitusions are to complicated, agree!


Developer of the PowerPlay Manager project vlady


substitutions are definitely something we want to improve to make it more user friendly and also to give you more options. I have it in my tasks to find the solutions for this.


PRO pack owner Germany SpikeStranger


Fine.


ivan1981

Thank you. I, personally, would be happy with a simple options like this: when def is sent off choose a player to sub off, choose a player to sub in and that he goes automaticly to a palce of sent off def. Same for mid, goa, and off. I think that is the minimum options we should get to make it satisfying. For me that would be also the most perfect, as I like simplicity and not many options but im sure most of the managers would liek bit more than that. But I think that should be the minimum we should get in the sent off options.


soderb


Just use the striker as the player going off and make 4 of the same, but with a LD coming on for the exact same positione as your LD starting player, same for CD+CD+RD. If the player is not sent off the sub cant take place but if the position is empyt then it works


PRO pack owner Germany SpikeStranger


Really, that works for you?
Because it doesn't for me and vlady tried to simulate my settings and it didn't work, too.


PRO pack owner Germany SpikeStranger


See discussion on page 176 in 'Reporting bugs'-thread.


the outlaw

position changes are active in the game?
theoretically, yes.
but really exist in a match, that in the "Live Broadcasts" not read anything.


Developer of the PowerPlay Manager project vlady


yes, they work.



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