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Pro tip: perhaps the engine isn't logical as we think it is.

this is game,nothing is important,random is 50%
Are they at least working on reducing the randomness? Or can I sell all my best players and let Mr. Random be my ace in the sleeve?
With lots of good players you can reduce the level of randomness. So even with bad players you would win, but only every now and then. But with good players you could lose, but only every now and then. That's how I see it.
It's not a matter of randomness, but of probabilities. As far as I see it, it's fine as it is. The only thing I miss is to be able to have more elements to get to know how things happen in the ME: plays, possession, etc...
It's not only Barcelona. There are a plenty of tactics that do not uses "all positions".
Examples:
1. 4–3–2–1 (the "Christmas Tree" formation) - Glenn Hoddle used this formation during his time in charge of the England national football team. It is however most known for being the formation Carlo Ancelotti utilized on and off during his time as a coach of Milan.
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2. 3–5–2 - It was used for the first time at international level by the German coach Franz Beckenbauer. Terry Venables notably used this formation (along with a 4-1-2-1-2) during England's campaign in Euro 96, with Gareth Southgate or Paul Ince acting as defensive midfielder. The formation was also used by Egypt national football team in their 3 successful 2006 African Nations Cup, 2008 African Nations Cup, 2010 African Nations Cup.
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3. 3–6–1 - Guus Hiddink is one of the few coaches who has used this formation, recently for Australia during the 2006 FIFA World Cup.
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4. 5–3–2 with sweeper or 1–4–3–2
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5. 5–3–2 without sweeper
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6. 3–4–3 - The formation was famously used by Liverpool under Rafael Benitez during the second half of the 2005 UEFA Champions League Final to come back from a three goal deficit.
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7. 4–3–3 - the team that brought this formation to the forefront was the famous Ajax team of the early 1970s, which won three European Cups with Johan Cruyff. Most teams using this formation now use the specialist defensive midfielder; Arsenal, and Chelsea are the most famous recent examples.
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8. 4–6–0 - The first team to adopt the formation systematically was Luciano Spalletti's Roma side during the 2005–06 Serie A season, mostly out of necessity as his "strikerless" formation. The formation was unsuccessfully used by Craig Levein's Scotland vs Czech Republic to widespread condemnation.
And so on, and so on..
All of these tactics are penalized in PPM, which is not good at all...
Examples:
1. 4–3–2–1 (the "Christmas Tree" formation) - Glenn Hoddle used this formation during his time in charge of the England national football team. It is however most known for being the formation Carlo Ancelotti utilized on and off during his time as a coach of Milan.
upload.wikimedia.org/wiki...
2. 3–5–2 - It was used for the first time at international level by the German coach Franz Beckenbauer. Terry Venables notably used this formation (along with a 4-1-2-1-2) during England's campaign in Euro 96, with Gareth Southgate or Paul Ince acting as defensive midfielder. The formation was also used by Egypt national football team in their 3 successful 2006 African Nations Cup, 2008 African Nations Cup, 2010 African Nations Cup.
upload.wikimedia.org/wiki...
3. 3–6–1 - Guus Hiddink is one of the few coaches who has used this formation, recently for Australia during the 2006 FIFA World Cup.
upload.wikimedia.org/wiki...
4. 5–3–2 with sweeper or 1–4–3–2
upload.wikimedia.org/wiki...
5. 5–3–2 without sweeper
upload.wikimedia.org/wiki...
6. 3–4–3 - The formation was famously used by Liverpool under Rafael Benitez during the second half of the 2005 UEFA Champions League Final to come back from a three goal deficit.
upload.wikimedia.org/wiki...
7. 4–3–3 - the team that brought this formation to the forefront was the famous Ajax team of the early 1970s, which won three European Cups with Johan Cruyff. Most teams using this formation now use the specialist defensive midfielder; Arsenal, and Chelsea are the most famous recent examples.
upload.wikimedia.org/wiki...
8. 4–6–0 - The first team to adopt the formation systematically was Luciano Spalletti's Roma side during the 2005–06 Serie A season, mostly out of necessity as his "strikerless" formation. The formation was unsuccessfully used by Craig Levein's Scotland vs Czech Republic to widespread condemnation.
And so on, and so on..
All of these tactics are penalized in PPM, which is not good at all...

And point is - one player CAN hold wing side of the pitch.
And wing defender and wing forward are absolutely enough.
And some other combinations.
Engine should recognize can one player hold side - not to penalized just because there is no side midfielder - for example.
Also - maybe player skills should influence more on his performance - not just position on field - if def have midfielder attributes it's logical that he will cover that side too.
And wing defender and wing forward are absolutely enough.
And some other combinations.
Engine should recognize can one player hold side - not to penalized just because there is no side midfielder - for example.
Also - maybe player skills should influence more on his performance - not just position on field - if def have midfielder attributes it's logical that he will cover that side too.
+ CM that is positioned just next to side zone - also contributes to that side, especially if he have more speed for example.
All in all - more variety in:
skills - player position - player linking - tactic
is necessary.
All in all - more variety in:
skills - player position - player linking - tactic
is necessary.
My point was that weaker teams win too many times, which really shouldn't be the case. Sure it CAN happen and it SHOULD happen but not in so many occassions as it does right now.
I definitely agree. More detailed information about ME would be a good thing.
But I guess they are just trying to hide the weaknesses..
I'm pretty sure most of the guys here played hattrick and I'm sure how people used to complain there about the famous random. Well, after I started playing this game I no longer complain about the random there cause this is way worse.
Don't get me wrong, I like PPM but this thing is very repulsive.
But I guess they are just trying to hide the weaknesses..
I'm pretty sure most of the guys here played hattrick and I'm sure how people used to complain there about the famous random. Well, after I started playing this game I no longer complain about the random there cause this is way worse.
Don't get me wrong, I like PPM but this thing is very repulsive.
It would be interesting to see statistics, or "the bigger picture" (all the games that are played daily, thousands and thousands). Percentage of those who are won by "weaker" teams and those that are won by those who "deserve" it (read: better teams).
I think odds are, favoured teams are way ahead and would prove your "cans'" and "shoulds'".
Numbers are running every simulation game and no user can check every game and paste it on here. And not just in one occasion the pasted game was actually normal, nothing wrong with the result. There could be a miss swing with tactics, or player positioning or something else.
There are always going to be some results, that will stand out and be deemed wrong. But nothing can be perfect, an online game the least.
I think odds are, favoured teams are way ahead and would prove your "cans'" and "shoulds'".
Numbers are running every simulation game and no user can check every game and paste it on here. And not just in one occasion the pasted game was actually normal, nothing wrong with the result. There could be a miss swing with tactics, or player positioning or something else.
There are always going to be some results, that will stand out and be deemed wrong. But nothing can be perfect, an online game the least.
when exactly does a team go inactive ?
09/01/2012 = last login, so monday 30/01/2012 is the 21st day he's without a login, will he change to inactive on 21st or 22nd day of inactivity?
09/01/2012 = last login, so monday 30/01/2012 is the 21st day he's without a login, will he change to inactive on 21st or 22nd day of inactivity?
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