Subject: II.2

How much is your total cash haul for all 7 seasons Blakkat? I do not think you understand what I see, again, I am not blaming you or anyone. But tell me your haul for all 7 seasons, mine is 588 mil total, that includes everything, player sales etc. Leggman is going to make 758 mil for next season!! That will not include, home games and friendles nor player sell. I am betting he will be close to a billion for the season.

How can you or anyone not see something wrong with this!!

total general sponsor money alone or total GS + TV + Skybox?

I can't speak for anybody else but I only get $2-$3 mil a week more than you do and thats only because I had a huge pay increase last year after finishing 2nd in the playoffs. So those big dogs like Leggman, Red Wings, Psychos, etc. make alot more than I do too. But they are better teams than mine and have done a better job consistently than I have so they deserve to make more than I do.

I mean total for all 7 seasons, look in the top box bottom line, it tells you your total since you began your run of the team. mine is 588 mil real close to 589 mil. And again, i am not placing blame or even messing with you. I just feel defeated after seeing leggman is going to make 47 mil per week. I am shocked and suprised that more people are not upset!!

That also takes into consideration your player and staff sales and whatever loans you have taken out throughout the years. So that is not a true amount of what you make from sponsorship and tv deals.

That total really doens mean much since we may have differnet approaches to the game. For example how often do you use your loans. Between loans and the things tha fall under the other in finaices I have almost 350 mil. But when you take into acount that I have a loan payback of 385 mil should that really count towards my total revenue. Numbers can be stated in ways to make any one persons view seem differnet then intended. I've done a little more the 1 billion in total rev but that is you count the 350 mil from loans that get paid back with interest. Every week i have a loan out and are making loan payments. I'm your typical american always in debt and making the minimum payments.

I have "circulated" 1.1 billion since the start. Actually looking ONLY at this number you have really done well with half that circulation. Your team is very good and a contender to come second next season (would have been first if Opivy had decided to take his chances in 1.1) I think you should be real proud of how much you have achieved with so little cash.

Basically, I think you manage your team really well. You knocked me out of the POs last year fair and square with a slightly weaker team. I think with all facilities and arenas even you'd be really good at this game. Shame you're not sticking around to enjoy success later on.

Gotcha and understand your point, but you have still had revenue of close to 1 billion!! which is still 300 more mil then myself. Follow me on this, because maybe i am wrong and whining for nothing.

Leggman has a new contract for both media and tv, 31 mil and 17 mil, this does not count his sky boxes. My deal is for 6.8 mil and 800k per week. I fully understand that leggman knows the game better then i ever will. But we all started at the same time give or take a few weeks. Show me, how you sitting at 1 bil in rev, and Flyers are you also close to 1 bil total rev? is fair that someone has twice as much over the same time? I am willing to bet that leggman is sitting close to or over 2 billion. he will make 752 mil just off sponsor this season!! That is almost as much as you made in 7!! And I also try to never use loans, i have total loans of 45 mil over 7 seasons, and most of that was last season upgrading stadium, which i may have to downgrade because i cannot afford it.

Now, how many seasons will it take for you to catch up to Leggman? There is a serious flaw where you not me, is that far behind him. And your total rev does matter in contrast to me, because that is where the imbalance is off . This game is all about revenue and nothing else. Players will even out at some point, probably about season 22 or so.


I am done with it, just venting!! Thanks for listening and maybe I will see things different tomorrow.

I'm around 900 mill and thats after loans which is like 200 mill.
Even though you have been playing in DivI and yet you still have brought in only slightly more than me and DivII is the highest I've been. Maybe the answr isn't changing the income levels but creating a new league format. By putting in a global league where lets say the top 5% play in. This higher league would be more competitive for the top leagues and make it easier for the other teams in DivI right now actually have an equal shot. However I have no idea if other countries are having as much of a variance as we are just because we dont have nearly as many teams as some of the Europeans do.

The other issue is the huge OTR boosts you get for playing in the cups and upper level leagues - if you make those and you can do decent you get a massive leg up next season and the gap just keeps growing.

I think our discrepancy in revenue is due to player transfer. Look at mine transfers and perhaps even Leggs and compare to yours. You haven't sold enough players to keep up with the revenue.

I think I'm decent at this game for not spending too much time on it. My total revenue is 650mil and I have never used loans. I'm not complaining that Leggman is going to make more next season than I did in my first seven seasons because I have fun playing. This IS a game. Who cares if you aren't the best? If you enjoy competing and trying to outsmart your competition tactically, managing finances and players, what else can you ask for? I have played other sport simulating games and I have to say that this one is by far the best. It may have some flaws in allowing certain people grow exponentially faster than others but what are you looking for in a game besides having fun? Can you only have fun by being the best?

It's not so much ONLY being the best, it's that even if you play every game perfect they still pull away from you regardless of your ability.

No offense Killer, but no where in any of my post have i claimed i needed to be the best. I have even stated many times in several threads that i suck at this game. Since it is just myslef and Eeoulo who seem to understand the same point, maybe we are both crazy.