Subject: Mentoring Program

*Smile* No bids from me.

Mordeth, i know what you mean...

I've actually gotten to the point in hockey where I've started to scout players from other teams. I've got all my own staff members and players scouted and so I wanted to see what other people are doing with their training. I'm actually pretty shocked to see how many people only train one or two categories.

sure it might make your overall team rating go up faster (it seems to at least), but it makes your salaries shoot through the roof quickly, and i'd imagine it can cripple your team badly in the long run...

I'd love to see less US teams doing this sort of thing.

It's an ongoing problem every SIM I've played. It's all about the money, which you have to have if you develop high enough as a team. If you can train one skill, maybe two, high enough you can get a good return in the market. It can make you a lot of money. But, it ends up flooding the market with unbalanced players that take forever to make useful.

(mumble...mumble...groan...)

Imagination is not needed at all. If you do not train your secondary skills at the same time, you will ruin that player!! This is how it is setup. Your training up will slow down the further out of wack it is!!

Well I should say, that was how it was taught to me in hockey. And it seemed to be true as far as I could tell.

Right C2L, I normally stay off the market. People put outragous price tags on crap!

Frigging seen some fool pay 20 some odd mill for a 234 OR player. Why? In 2 seasons that player will be a bench warmer!! That 20 million is 3 level 8 Facilites, which would help your team much better in the long run.

That being said, I did spend 3 mil on goalie. But he was starter before being on market. And the team manager trained the secondaries up. He is now my starter and kicking some major ass.

Yep. It all depends on your focus. If the focus is money, count on the manager training primaries...and maybe one secondary...sort of. If the manager is trying to build his team and just lets players go that no longer make the grade, count on reasonably well developed/balanced players. That's what I do. Sadly, too many managers are focused on the money, in my opinion.

Depending on the Qs, that $20 million could have been justified.

We will agree to disagree on that Cory. You cannot convince me it was wise to waste 20 million on player before season 4. Well at least not that player I seen.

Anyways, like C2L says, we all have our own way. And since I am still sitting in div 4, my way might be wrong.

From context, I take it the player in question was in Handball? If so, I'd lean more towards your line of thinking. He'd have to have GREAT Qs for me to consider setting my infrastructure back that badly that early, and even then it's likely completely counterproductive.

Oh ya, I am only playing HB at this time. Right then, we do think alike. Because my training is not ready for the high AQ's.

To be fair, you were awesome competition in the IV.4 last season. I sweated our semifinal matchup more than I sweated the finals. You're doing everything right... I just gamed the system the first season and got lucky with my SA pulls late in the year.

I'll be quite surprised if you don't make it up to III.4 or II.1 in the next couple of seasons.

You both make excellent points when you agree haha. The training is the key for me here... Until our training facilities are much better, AQs really don't mean that much.

You can level your SA a couple of times with that $20 million and pull dozens players with OR of 234 or more (for the same cost) before you can train that bought player into a stud.

I hope so Lanky lol. KoD and LHotL are pretty good managers. I wish we had more managers.

That is my thoughts also. When your training house hits 10, then you can get some full points on your training camps.

You know, in my hockey league, there's only been 2-3 other active managers each season.

The same thing happens here in handball in the lower leagues. There's some decent teams down there, but they're all spread out.

I wish they would actually redistribute the divisions as they say they are capable. Nothing sucks more than being stuck in a league year after year where only 2 or 3 teams provide any real thought/competition.

Anyone have a good FAQ on how to do player training?? That's the part that I'm most confused about.

hockey its a 2:1:1 system. Ie. goal-tending 2 , technique , passing 1. Football and handball its a 4:3:2:1 system. Then you have to decide on the shooting ratio's and any additional tweaks for your system. But those are the base ratio's to build your training system around. Read the area in the guide about Attributes, major, medium and small influences for which ones to concentrate on.