Subject: [Old] Canada Senior NT Discussion

Bring out your wallets, one third of the National Team is up for sale.

Bad news for me: I was planning a sell off, but now all the money in Canada will be gone trying to repatriate the NT... including mine.

Bad news? Sell those players ASAP and get in on the cKs sweepstakes.

Wish I could, but I'm in camp and would not be able to field a team. I'll have to make due with what I have and can beg, borrow, or steal...

Not my money, I'm keeping that for my infrastructures. Much better value in the long term.

Also I don't care if half our national team "lives" in foreign countries as long as they have access to top level facilities and competent managers. As a matter of fact we'd have access to a bigger pool of players to choose from if we had a national strategy that made use of foreign teams rather than relying on a narrow pool of Canadian managers.

+1 Look at the stats, many very good managers are unfortunately foreign

How exactly would one control that though? Theres nothing stopping a foreign manager from making a bid on a Canadian, and I doubt many people would be willing to overpay just to keep a prospect from going to a specific team, whether or not its a good place to go.

It's a good point: I'd never buy a player that wouldn't improve my team, but all those guys are monsters and would. As for infrastructures, I'll keep building, but with promotion and ten players to sell, I'll get some money for that despite spending this Saturday.

It isn't so much about control as it is about odds. If a team with level 10 training facilities pulls a great prospect with 80+ effective qualities with perfect longevity and decent starting OR, that player has no chance of making the national team. However if he is put on the market he might end up on a team with more advanced facilities making him a possible future national team player thus widening the pool of players to choose from. He might end up on a team that also can't build him up well enough to make the national team, but the point is that there is a chance he can end up on a team with top facilities as opposed to a guarantee that he won't if he remains in place. Either way the seller gets a lot of money that can be used to upgrade his facilities to a higher level and in time become a team capable of building national team players. From the national team perspective, if the player ends up on another team incapable of building him up sufficiently then we lose nothing as he wasn't going to be useful to begin with, however if he ends up on a team with top level facilities we end up increasing the pool of players the national team can choose from by one.

Of course odds go both ways. For example if I get a similar prospect (I can dream) with my training facilities soon to reach level 15, selling him would result in a higher probability of him ending up on a team with weaker facilities. That would adversely affect the pool of potential national team prospects. The decision to keep or sell good prospects obviously need to be made on a team by team basis. Different managers have different objectives and are in different situations in regards to their teams. It would be important to clearly identify the minimum level of facilities needed for a player to have a shot at the national team as to avoid having managers hold on to good prospects in the faint hope they can make the national team despite their facilities not being quite good enough.

Canada doesn't have many soccer managers and we rely too much on a select few. Case in point, we just lost 1 manager and a third of the national team is on the market. This is not a good situation, this is not a healthy situation. By being more open to foreign managers training our players we can gain access to a large pool of competent managers with top level facilities. A national strategy that encourages building up facilities to a level useful to the national team as opposed to the current emphasis of keeping our best prospects in Canada would be far more viable in the long term as well as short term. In the short term it allows for a few prospects to evolve in teams with better facilities than they would otherwise. Long term we end up with more Canadian managers with facilities capable of building national team worthy players.

CharredMonkey as our PM! +1

though a player in top team might bench much longer, getting less XP over time. But we can't control that...

*becomes Politician*

*Receives brown envelopes*

Congrats to Kenora Stingers, NK Divlje, Bow Valley AFC, and Muffin Fighters. 6 out of 11 cKs players will remain on Canadian teams.

it's alright except Brendan Gregoire landing in a team with Training lvl 13...

Some serious cash tossed around too. <ScotiaBank voice:> I'm poorer than I thought!