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trueblue55


Absolutely. There are way too many factors involved to make it an easy thing to program from a coding point of view.


DarkAddiction

For a high level team to loan a player down to someone in the lower leagues they could pay all or a portion of the salary of the player and the loanee would give the player experience.

Thats why its done in real life. But then we'd have to put in place relationships between clubs and limits on the number of loan players that can be fielded.

The real problem is that then it becomes a good buddy system unless loan relationships are randomly generated each season.


ivan1981


Yes, but you are forgetting the training and regeneration objects of weaker teams. Im sure that stronger teams would not release their players to teams with weaker objects because of the negative influence on their training. Sure they would gain some experience, but training is much more important.


DarkAddiction

Agreed. The current PPM system really does not lend itself well to a loan system, so there would have to be other considerations built in to make it feasible.


Tacklefin

Here is one idea how it could be done:

- owner sets player to the loan market, where people make bids (just like in the market)
- player uses owner's training&regeneration facilities etc. but trains only 75%
- player gains experience 125%

So the idea is: a bit less training, but more experience. And of course owner would get some money from the loan transfer. Numbers are just example.


warder1983

You can loan a player if you got the same training facilities or maybe
+/- 1 level.
Loan market is good idea!


ivan1981


I think that would not be good idea, it would be big discriminations for weaker teams. And the loan of players is something that weaker teams want to exploit as a way to get good but cheap players.

And loan between strong teams is not likely to happened because strong, rich teams want their own players, they dont want to develop players for their rivals in for example CL.
Also those players who would go out on loan from big teams are usually with lower OR, that means that only weaker teams would loan them., And most of them dont have high objects...

Its closed circle, for now. Later in several season time when lots of teams will have high objects than your idea would make sense. But currently it doesant. The thing that Tacklefin said makes much more sense, but with some tweaking of numbers ofcourse.


BronteFlynn


I think loan players may only work if they basically allowed multiple teams per account and players between those teams can be loaned. But that is possibly against the fundamentals of this game.


PasMater

i think it would be great if teams in first, and maybe second leagues could create their second squad on same account, to play in lowest leagues.
therefore, they should have possibility to have more than 30 players without penalties.
all players should train together but lower quality players would play games for second squad.


ivan1981


This is good as an idea. But with one huge problem...human nature.
Pretty soon strongest teams would have their B teams also high in high leagues, competing against others, looking for best result and that is potential path to disaster.
Those B teams would take place for some other clubs, and would make strong teams even stronger and richer.


PasMater


yes, you'r right...that could be a problem.

solvation is to create league for reserve squads, like in england premiership. in that league could play every reserve squad, no matter in wich major league first team is. if there would be more reserve teams there should be more reserve league groups, like R.1 league, R.2 etc...they sould play reagular season and at the end 1st placed teams could play playoff. but no progress (r. team squad stays in r. league), no credits (OTR progress), and no trophies. just expirience growth and testing pleyers positions.


ivan1981


That would be the solution yes. Absolutely no prizes, promotions nothing at all. Only for testing, getting chemistry and experience. And energy must be included in R leagues too.
Only downside of this solution is that they need to include all those R leagues. I doubt that would be easy and quick solution, but I have no idea about that.


HIGUERA


I really like that, but I see a problem there: an in-game advantage for those clubs that have B-teams. And in-games advantages -for paying users, or top leagues clubs, as you say- should be avoided in any sport manager, imho...

Anyway, this idea was implemented in another game I played not long ago. Not exactly the same, anyway: B-teams playing in the same national league as A-teams, starting from the bottom levels...

That was the beggining of in-game advantages for some clubs in that game, and so the beggining as well for many users to think about quitting -and finally they did it-... ;-)


kkoulgr

The club could choose where to loan the player. It could b ea loan market and managers could apply for the loaning of a player. If the owner was satisfied from the coaches and facilities ratio, then could loan the player.

It would be fun though....not an easy thing to schedule


crossman321


Reserve team (B-team) can't play a competition that A-team participate, this will be the solution



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