Subject: Reporting bugs

Thanks.
In any case I reckon this might be related to the changes done to the substitution system a few weeks back, announced in the news from the 18.7.
I realized the above some time after, earlier I had no problems of that sort.

OK. he will take a look. Hopefully he will have a feedback soon

Three weeks ago the question was asked. Except formal replies I received nothing back.

Thx for reporting, we will take a look at it as soon as possible, it-s a bit hectic situation at the moment, and this requires some time, but we will check it of course.

I assigned a task to a programmer, but he hasn't checked it yet. I will remind him today.

Yes that is exactly the problem, I have check it and explained it recently in Croatian forums, so Walter's answer is correct.

Thx for helping Patrik, I guess you are the only one who took my mail seriously, I'll write it again!

Ok, good to know. If it does any help (maybe to see the bug better) I'll leave line-up C as it is for the time being. I don't need it. Default I need though.

Yes it will be helpful, thx.

when you set the condition to send off, it doesn't work because in that case we only check if the move can be made once, and that is when the send off happens. Therefore Yazgan could not move because technically he was not on pitch yet.

You should do these two moves (sub and a move) one after another to make sure it works.

This can only work when you set the condition to time because in that case we check up to 3 times if the move can be made.

when did you set the bugged subs? Was it a longer time ago? What happens if you try to do the same in a fresh new substitution? I would like to know what moves you made to achieve this. I don't this is about relations between subs, but more likely with the set of moves that you make with your mouse. Maybe you played around with it and then saved it after more moves than would be necessary.

Ok, sounds reasonable.
Yet, as I explained, the reason for this was the other issue - setting the two moves (sub and position change) after another ends up not showing the position change.

Well, vlady, the subs in line-up C I just made a few days back to explicitly show you what happened, instead of complicatedly explain everything. So it is not an old line-up, and everything is freshly made (after deleting the previous subs).
And I recognized this a few weeks back, in several line-ups were I made my usual changes.
This is another point, I didn't do anything new. All of my sub-settings for send-offs I repeated hundreds of times before. And since the invention of the new sub-system never has anything like that happened. So I don't believe that I made some mistake here.
And also I now realized that it is not something exclusively for the send-off. If I set instead of Send-off some time the same happens.

Take a look at my line-up D now. Before doing anything I deleted all of the substitutions (and didn't change anything to the line-up).

Then I set substitution 1:
Nohl <=> Dvornik - Spielerwechsel
Cunha <=> Nohl - Spielerwechsel
Cunha - Positionswechsel (CF)
I took care to only click these three changes (better: drag&drop).

Substitution 2:
I dragged&dropped only (you can still see it when clicking on Edit):
Cunha <=> Dvornik - Spielerwechsel
Cunha - Positionswechsel (CF)
It is shown after saving:
Arménio Cunha <=> Tomica Dvornik - Spielerwechsel

So the position change is missing again. The same holds for Sub 3 and 4. (Btw, sorry, just saw that I copy and pasted the german text.)

And then I just now realized something else: The order of substitutions is vital for this.
If I now click Edit for Sub 1 (even before saving it), the missing position changes are shown. Obviously it will be set behind the others after saving.
If I then edit and save the other three again (and so the subs come later) they are gone again. Just test it, hopefully you can verify these results after just a few steps.

Open question (to me) is what will happen in a match with the position changes when they are there but not shown. Maybe I'll try in tomorrows friendly.

This may be only a display problem. At least one sub like this happened with the position change in yesterdays friendly (85' min. Line-up B), although it is not shown in the Sub box.