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  Subject: I.1


Borshow

You dont see, but i write hundreds of mails. To other captns, player owners, countries captn, and vlady too.

But you dont tell your ideas. Dont discuss. So it is not any strike directon. Only if,if,if.


Borshow

By the way, did you all start the season as you wish before?
My start is fine. Thats my happyness in my sadness.


cavaelen


The problem that both TB and I have is that none of you had any interest in the Oceania or Australian leagues before there was a chance of being NT manager. Therefore it is very hard to believe your interested in the Australian community any more than just doing well in the NT for your own reputation.

If you want TB to answer a question maybe you could post the short question here. Im not sure what question you asked.


cavaelen


I didnt change my energy usage so i ended up playing vhigh instead of vlow so not very happy. Wonder if ive just gifted TB the title again.


Borshow


Ó man! 41 other game before you! :-D Dont be sure in anything until Ivan is here.


Borshow


Like a mantra again and again. You dont believe. No problem, but you dont try me. You dont use me. Thats the problem. This all is not about me, or you, or TB, or robO299. This is about the national team. You want to make it, lead it thats okay. But how, and when? I dont detected that you do anything. You want to do it just 3 of you? Thats not enough. a national team need minimum 5-10 committed man. You even dont know that the national team members attributes are not secret. The most national captn scouted every other national teams. They cannt do it alone.
I searched all australian player outside australia. I wrote to every owner. I want to speak with the hungarian community to help us to build a great national team, or to scout enemies, or give us infos about the enemies. You even dont ask me to do that! Or ask robO299! Just do something! When he, or me disappear after the election? Who cares, if until that we helped you, and you try to involve active managers to help you. Search grimmo from II-2 league! He seems enthusiastc at now. But if you dont involve him, he can disappear too.
Your community is small. You must take care every member or involve member outside australia or you will fail.
And what if when i do it for my own reputation, but i make it hard, tirelessly, struggle and successful?


Borshow

And now the questions from oceanic forum. I copy.


Borshow

What do you all think? Isnt it a big disadvantage that you dont need a really fight for th highest place in the first division? You have only 3-4 enemies. The others are just runner up.
I have some other question. What do you think Tb, how many manager will help us active by the national team? Do you have names?

I hope we will have lots of conversation with eric, cava, alan and probably Nsdawg. But the others? It seems, they are not so active. Do you have relationship with other managers?

Have the australian forum a moderator? I think, it will need a moderator. Or not? What do you thing, guys? Even me made an unnecessary topic. I m the first one, who should be moderated. :-D

I would have lots of questions, but until you dont answer the first, why should i ask the others?


Borshow


I dont know, that you understand me or not. :-(

I tought, that this foreigner thing we cleared once. Funny is that TB was already a helper by an other countries national. Now it seems its a crime.


Borshow

Cava, what you say, that is a two way road. It can be true not only to me. Look TB, what is for the national team the best, or he want only grown her own reputation? Or Do you say what the best is for your national team, or you have something else elfish object?

You see? This are not good questions. Good questions are, what can we do, to do better national teams?


cavaelen

"You want to make it, lead it thats okay. But how, and when? I dont detected that you do anything. You want to do it just 3 of you? Thats not enough. a national team need minimum 5-10 committed man."

No i dont want to lead. I think TB as the top Aussie Manager should lead the Aussie NT. If/When he is elected i have no doubt that TB will do a fantastic job and that the Australian community will support him. Yes I agree need more than the coach and assistant. You need support of every manager with player in the team or with possible future players.

"You even dont know that the national team members attributes are not secret."
All players attributes are initially hidden but you can scout them. Why would i show additional people my players attributes when i dont need to?

"I wrote to every owner."
Given your not NT manager yet that could be considered SPAM.

"I want to speak with the hungarian community to help us to build a great national team, or to scout enemies, or give us infos about the enemies. You even dont ask me to do that!"
Without the ok from the managers of those players that would probably break the rules. Just like me sharing info on another team in my league to someone else would be considered cheating. So no thanks i dont want to be part of that.

"When he, or me disappear after the election?"
We care, the Aussie NT is for the Aussie managers. If your not going to be involved in the community then why would we want you as NT manager. The fact that none of you were involved before the NT got set up shows that your not interested in the actual community.


cavaelen

"Isnt it a big disadvantage that you dont need a really fight for th highest place in the first division?"
Its more a lack of fun which comes from the competition.

"how many manager will help us active by the national team? Do you have names? "
My guess is around 5-10 who are actively involved. Depends what you mean by help though. Lots will provide their player info, some will scout others.

"Have the australian forum a moderator? I think, it will need a moderator. Or not? What do you thing, guys? Even me made an unnecessary topic. I m the first one, who should be moderated. "
No dont think we have a moderator. We did have a National Support team at one stage but apparently not having one is the preferred position of PPM over having one that couldnt put as much effort into it as required.

"I tought, that this foreigner thing we cleared once. Funny is that TB was already a helper by an other countries national. Now it seems its a crime. "
I was a NT helper for another NT team as well. However i was involved with that community well before i ever put my hand up to help.


cavaelen


Dont think TB needs to grow his reputation in PPM. Most in the international forum already know him quite well. :)

Dont understand your other questions. My objective is for Australia to run the Aussie NT while there are people willing to do the job. If there are no Aussie managers wanting to do it then im happy for someone from outside Aus to have a go provided they have shown they are dedicated to and part of the aussie community.


Borshow

"...TB as the top Aussie Manager ..."
He is the top because he is the oldest here, and he have got not to much enemy. Easy job.

"All players attributes are initially hidden but you can scout them. Why would i show additional people my players attributes when i dont need to?"
Because the national team need it. If you dont do that, you just pull back. We dont need all your players. I dont need any of your players. I dont care. I m not your enemy in any level. Not in your enemy league, or national league, and our national teams are not in the same level.

"Given your not NT manager yet that could be considered SPAM." You mean it seriously? Do you know what i write? Pick up relationship is a spam? Oh my god!

"Just like me sharing info on another team in my league to someone else would be considered cheating. So no thanks i dont want to be part of that."
Where are in the rules, that if i scouted a player, i cannt tell that to others? Do you ever been in the market? Or where is forbidden, that if a countrie made a tactical analysis from the other, then he can tell that to others?

Spam, cheating? What about are you talking? I dont understand. Are you serious?

"Depends what you mean by help though." Some example: Who will scout the enemies? Who will train with big facilities the young australian?

"Its more a lack of fun which comes from the competition." Yeah, but the true experience and knowledge is missing.

"I was a NT helper for another NT team as well. However i was involved with that community well before i ever put my hand up to help."
So you say, that you dont need my help?

To be australian in the australian captn chair, that is not an adventige. It cannt be a standpoint. Emotion/feeling? Yes, but i think its not enough. I dont see yet, that you have any other reason to choose TB. Just beaacuase he is australian. Why are you playing with 10 midfielders in the last match? Because the australian do it so, that is australaian style. I dont think so. Arguments of reason should decide.


Borshow

About this one thing:"I wrote to every owner.
Given your not NT manager yet that could be considered SPAM."
I write to moderators and chief moderators too. They have not so bad australian players. They dont think its a spam. They answer me kindly. If you watch, the database, then you could see, that the database about outsider australian is almoast full. (Some owner didnt answer.) But you dont send your e-mail adress to me, so you cannt see it. I think.



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