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  件名: II.1


Mrbrightside098

Considering last season, my team has gotten a really good start, beating MK Ultras and Samurai, and holding off sterling cheetahs all with normal energy,on top of three relatively easy match-ups that I should win next. This might actually be a good season as my striker Pal Lesko seems to be finally coming out of the woodwork after having him as a starter for awhile, and snagging Cestmir Ivan for 11.8 mil to help out Lucas Cajko(one of the only defenders that seemed to be able to do anything) on defense.
I also spent too much energy in the beginning of last season so things kinda went downhill there. I plan on better using my energy this season, saving as much as I can without forfeiting losses until the end of the season. I also won't be using the same generic line up the whole time either so as to save even a little more energy.
What if Safado FC actually kept this up, that would be hilarious xD!!!! Also if the Water Pump's goalie can keep up the ratio hes currently at I wouldn't be surprised to see them competing for a top 5 spot.
Is it just me? Or is there a perfect ratio for goalies that no one can find? Like my goalie has only 20 less OVR than my best CM but their individual rating on the field is a difference of 3! I've looked around with the teams in I.1 and I see the same kinda trend going on. So do the individual ratings just rate harder on goalies? Or are we just missing something with the ratios?


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There's no way that Safado FC keeps up their success, though they (or one of the other defunct teams) might manage to sneak into 15-18 and perhaps end up playing a weak team for relegation.

The Water Pump's goalie has done well to get 3 CS (on six total shots), however, the Water Pumps have played games that they should be expected to win up to this point. The Water Pumps did underperform last year, but I don't see them making the the top 5. Their goalie (and other players I've scouted) look like they've been practicing the same attribute for over one game year and their attributes are unbalanced. If their players had remained balanced, then they would probably be closer to the 3-7 range.

I've also noticed that for different player types, the correlation between OR and player rating seem inconsistent. Goalies in particular do seem to have lower ratings.

Based on the goalies I have scouted in this league, .7 seems common for T and S, while P and H might range between .3 and .5. Espinosa is at about .33 with a rating of 16 while Holatko is at .4 with a rating that just hit 16. Espinosa is probably still one rating better, but has ~70 higher OR with similar experience. Stopka on the othe hand is at .5 with a rating that just hit 17 with similar OR to Espinosa (after adjusting for additional experience). Going back a few years, the most successful goalies seem to be at .4(+)-.7-.7.-4(+). Of course, goalie statistics largely reflect the team in front of them and number of shots taken.


Mrbrightside098


yeah with the goalie I kinda figured that but just wanted a second opinion, thanks


J0J0


yeah, I'm training my goalie to be at 50-75-75-50 %s. But it also seems that my defense is a little better this year. So far I also have 3 clean sheets but my goalie has only one save. That doesn't really mean my goalie is an ace, just that the defense has locked it down.


J0J0

edit ratios are 50-67-67-50


Underoath10


I was going to make my goalie ratios 33-75-75-33. I just see doing a ration system of 75-50-33 for the major-medium-small. It's highly possible you know more about the sim engine ppm uses, but from your goalie ratio I assume you use a ratio system of 75-66-50 or 75-60-50?

On a side note, I'm completely surprised on how the Typhoon performed today.


Mrbrightside098

I'm training my goalie to a 30-70-70-40 ratio, and to juak8 I apologize for jinxing your goalie. I forgot how much life hates me lol.


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I don't necessarily stick to a strick ratio system and consider each level to be within a range: [20,40]-[40,60]-[60,80]. Despite that, I tend to stick to the upper half of each range and for a player with average qualities, tend to use 70-60-40. I can't really prove whether the ratios I use are good or sub-optimal though.

So far this season, I managed to beat STL Saints and lose to Boca AC (though I played this game on very low rather than low by accident).


J0J0


Wow, Mojsky scored 3 times on me. Crazy game. Well done.

@Underoath: I really am trying to figure out things myself as well. I'm scouting some top teams' players and from what I gather they go about 70-50-33% on their secondaries. I didn't know what I was doing the first 3-4 seasons and ended up relegating to League III.1 after starting in I.1 so don't take think I know this game well.


Camrawrn

Man. I hate having a relatively easy start of the season. I'm first in standings, and have to watch myself slowly drop through the ranks throughout the season.

On a positive note, my goalie got his first save (and shot against) today! I was worried that he would get bored back there, he's barely had to do anything this season...


zomg


I used a 4-3-2-1 (or 100-75-50-25%) for the first several seasons, and I felt like my players' ratings were a little lower than they should be, for a given OR, as compared to other teams' players.

I switched to a 6-4-3-2 (100-67-50-33%), and it seemed a little better, so I've stuck with it. I certainly haven't done an exhaustive analysis though, so it could be all in my head :D.

The best is probably to set a baseline and then adjust up and down somewhat for each player based on their individual qualities. For example, if the baseline ratio for an attribute is 50%, but his quality is 90, maybe bump it up to 60% to take advantage of the high quality.

This is way too time consuming for me to maintain without PRO-pack though, so I'll leave it to the spenders to explore fully. :)


Camrawrn

Holy balls, I beat the Saints, even with my six offsides. Looks like using 5 defensemen finally payed off!


Mrbrightside098

*sigh* another tie...


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Thank you!


Camrawrn


I know that feeling. We're both at three draws... At least you haven't lost a game!



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