Onderwerp: Tactics

I agree with you tescosamoa. The following is my in-depth assumptions (with citations) as to how steals and blocks work.

As far as whether the other team steals from you or blocks your shot, I think it's dependent on the following relationships between your players and theirs. So for every "event" (player x has ball, player y challenges them), there's probably a dice roll of sorts with results determined by how each player's stats compare.

Them stealing from you:
your PAS vs. their BLK, SPD, TEC/AGR, and obviously FIP.

Them blocking your shot:
your SHO and TEC vs. their BLK, SPD, TEC/AGR, and again, FIP.

Consider the following quotes from the guide (followed by my brief interpretation):

- your team's PAS ("You cannot play handball without good passing. Every player, including the goalkeeper, must be able to pass the ball" ). You can pass around (or through) a defender because you are more accurate.
- your team's SHO ("The higher the shooting attribute, the higher the possibility that the player will capitalize on his scoring chance" ). You can shoot around (or through) a defender because you are more accurate.
- your player's TEC ("Technique represents the ability of a player to dribble with the ball or to deceive the opponent with fake moves" ). This means that the defender is not in as good a position to block you.


- your opponent's SPD ("Speed is also important to defend against fast breaks" ). They can get in passing lanes and shooting lanes quicker.
- your opponent's BLK ("for field players their ability to block shots but also stop opponents who are preparing to shoot. Blocking is also important for intercepting passes of your opponent" ). Their skill at intercepting passes and getting in the way of shots is better.
- your opponent's AGR/TEC ("Players with high aggressiveness rating and poor technique commit more fouls" ). A more aggressive player will go for steals more often... if his TEC isn't good, he'll foul more though.
- your opponent's FIP ("This attribute is used by all field players. It is the most important attribute for them and it represents their ability to read the play and follow tactical instructions" ). General ability to read the play improves judgement of when to try to steal or block.

yes that is true it's dynamic operation

Am I the only one thats actually gone to youtube and watched Handball matches just to get a better understanding of wth goes on?
One thing I found really strange, is that when a ball is misfired at the goalie, goes out of bounds or whatever, the goalie simply picks it up and runs or throws it, the game doesn't stop, no time out. Maybe i missed something, or the videos edited something out. Just found that strange. Still cant wrap my head around when a team switches players from offense to defense. Ive watched vids on the rules and no one has covered that topic. Beginning to wonder if I should start to train my offensive line to have a little bit of Def. I run 2 line line program, Def/ Off.

PPM Doesn't care. The point is you can run offense and defensive lines separately, but on fast breaks your O line will be laying defense.

I have a few defensive specialists but not a full line so that fast breaks won't be too problematic. I still train blocking to some extent for my offensive players (.5) and shooting to some extent for defensive players (.5). When watching games, it seems that defensive players sometimes end up taking shots, so I don't think that complete specialization is the way to go, though I haven't looked into training ratios and tactics as much as I could in handball.

Handball subs usually happen on the fly (as they would in hockey or lacrosse). You're unlikely to see/notice them when watching videos though, because (like hockey for instance), the changes usually occur off camera during transitions.

As Capsaicin says though, it's more likely that teams only sub a couple of players at a time (specialists) rather than rotating entire lines each time down the floor.

Handball is just confusing. You guys have brought stuff up that I haven't even thought about. Thanks for confusing me more.

Sorry didn't mean to reply to lanky522.