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but why do you need to bring this to this discussion. It is for questions and answers and I am afraid you question is hardly one that could be considered seriously. I am sure there are other threads where you can complain about your luck.

Well, I guess it was mainly a spontaneous reaction out of utter frustration...
So, sorry for that...

Still, there were also some serious thoughts involved here. Imho these upsets are bound to happen, but they should not happen too often, otherwise people will get frustrated. (Related is the question about how shots and their results are computed, but this has been talked about before.)
I'm still wondering what the chances were for these results to happen back to back. So, that would be a real question I'm pondering.

Between January 1 and 5 this year Manchester United lost 3 straight games:

1-2 to Spurs (home) - Premier League
1-2 to Swansea (home) FA Cup
1-2 to Sunderland (away) Capitol One Cup

On paper United have a stronger team than all those pponents, and played 2 of those games at home.

By your logic they should have won all 3 games. And based on paper team strength only, it would be a good assumption. But this 3 game run of losses proves that bad luck happens to the best teams, in the best leagues in the world.

So yeah, if it can (and does) happen in real life, it's going to happen here at PPM.

No, I didn't say the better team should always win, never said that btw. I already agreed that upsets are bound to happen sometimes in games of chances. The question is to what degree this is normal.
And of course I know the arguments you are putting forward, that strange results happen in real life also. Though, talking about ManUnited is at the moment probably not the best example. They are in some real crisis this season. Yet in PPM there is no such crisis factor, no memory of previous matches or form. It's a (complex) game of probabilities.
Anyway, I acknowledged above that just complaining wasn't the best post I ever made.
What I'm really wondering is how likely it is not to win a match with 16:2 ST or that my players shoot only two goals from 28 ST in two matches (given the fact, that due to player's strengths I guess I should have an advantage). My rough and conservative estimation (using math and the previous shooting statistics of my players) would be around 2% for the former and 0.5% for the second point. (Both numbers do not take into account the relative strength of goalkeepers and players, which should shift this in my favor!) So, especially the goal thing is highly unlikely, yet still obviously possible.
Everybody can think of this now what he or she wants. And somehow I've answered my question myself. And I will leave the topic now be...

Leafs have lost 8 straight. But the Leafs suck, so that doesn't help your point.

CHOKE LEAFS CHOKE!

LOL gotta love those leafs. They make for great entertainment. haha

Never count them out of choking. It is never too late. Hell, even my Canucks tanked early enough so I'm not clinging to hope and in doing so squashed hope for a decade to come. The Leafs, hell, they'll finish 9th after a last-minute tanking and get a shitty pick year after year .

IT IS GLORIOUS!

Or, they'll tank early and then play awesome at the end, but still only make it to 9th and get a shit pick. LOL Either way it's phenominal to watch it all go down.

You are saying, If engine decides to give a match to underdog they better make him win in possesion and shots on goal so the game review looks better.
That will make you question your own team, how did they get so week in one match.
Bad news are reality, there is no good way to present them to the manager.
Man utd is a good example that chemistry should make bigger difference in this game.

if it makes you fill better see these 2 consecutive games.
soccer.powerplaymanager.c...
soccer.powerplaymanager.c...

Well, no, that's not what I'm saying actually. I also don't think the match engine just 'decides' to give the match to the underdog.
As a manger you set up your team and tactics. And if you did that well enough and have the proper players you will end up with a higher amount of situations/chances than your opponent. So far, good engine.
But finally, the outcome of the situations you can't influence. It's pure chance, and obviously computed one after the other without memory. So, what I'm saying or better wondering about is, if those chances and the way they are evaluated are well balanced in all situations?
(For example in games where one team is overwhelmingly better, like my 16:2 ST or your 14:0 ST example. This speaks for such pressure the other team would most likely succumb to in real life; fitness problems due to constant defending, pressure on the goalkeeper and such. These things are not taken care of in the engine I suppose.)

You could be right about the chemistry, though.

Weird addendum, today/next game the total opposite. 13 ST, 7 goals. Against a not too bad opponent. Nice... But also somewhat strange.

the engine doesn't "decide" to give a match to underdog. It doesn't work that way.

nice....soccer.powerplaymanager.c...

Two red cards and after that the goal, nothing wrong there... or what do you mean?