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TheChad


Psst. I was talking about you.


trueblue55


That's not a Euro thing, that's how MOST leagues around the world work. Well over 90% of the worlds hockey is based on the IIHF rulebook and game style, which is different from that in the NHL and affiliated leagues.


opivy

Well the NHL is hockey and the rest is a giant mix of feeders :P (sarcasm here)


cavaelen


advancing to the next higher level would still be an accomplishment. Not sure how that changes - your youth would be better but your still at a disadvantge for money and player strength of your starting lineup.

At the moment the people at the top have the most money and the best facilties = top youth academies and able to buy best youngsters on the market. Until every gets to the same level of youth acadamies and training facilities i dont see how that can change.

By then - whats the point of having them? To disadvantage those who havent played as long?

The further and further i go in this game the more distance i see between old teams and new. Not necessarily good managers and bad.

For example myself - i dont think im in the top 3 best managers in other world i1 but because i did well in the first few seasons i have a record that says otherwise. Now i pay less that 1/5 of the attention to the game than i did at the start and still do well. That shouldnt happen and i would like it to change.


Eeoulo


This doesn't sound like sarcasm to me. You're right, there is a widening gap. That's been pointed out since season 2 but become more and more apparent.


Eeoulo


pssst I'm actually talking to you...


opivy


That is the key - they can buy a 50 million dollar player with unreal Q's, I can buy a 10 million dollar player with q's a bit below and play it smart but that 10 mil hurts me more AND puts me further behind because now my youth is lagging behind his youth etc.

I am the 99% of PPM


Person nær PPM-teamet canucks357


Sounds like the American dream. <1% get dirty rich. Everyone else struggles.


TheChad

I don't think it is as bad as you make it out to be.
After 15 or so seasons, you'll have everything maxed out.

I don't believe that you should punish those who play longer.
PPM is already set up so that your youth academy doesn't give a better chance at Qs, only at OVR.

Level 10 SA = ~150-300 OVR
Level 5 SA = ????

The difference is probably only a season or two of training.


Person nær PPM-teamet canucks357

SA is too much of a gamble anymore. That and my terrible attitude towards it due to my consistent bad luck has caused me to cease investing in it in both sports and merely buy my prospects on the market - I know EXACTLY what I'm getting that way.


cavaelen


IF everyone has to end up with maxed facilities to compete whats the point of even having them?

All you are doing is to make newcomers play for 10 seasons to have a chance of succeeding in i1. Thats a very good way to turn off new players.

My suggestion is to remove this need. If you do this you have 4 basic options
1) Give everyone the same chance of youth
2) Give top teams better
3) Give bottom teams better
4) Give one better quals and the other better OR.

I like the option of giving bottom teams better as it provides some help to lower teams who are earning less to counteract the money the top teams make. Thus providing more challenge in each league.

What you do between each league level would still need to be determined.


TheChad

So what? Should we let the new comers join and be competitive with the top teams after one season?
Why the heck should I continue to play if everyone who joins is just as good as me?
These games are about growth, and you're trying to take that out of the game.

If bottom teams get better OR players, I'd be upset.
Or are you going to offset that by making low div players (with low Qs and higher OVR) 18-20 and high div players (with high Qs and lower OVR) 15-17?


cavaelen


Not sure how youth players who are 200-400 OR could compete with players who are 800-1000OR in a year but whatever.

So you only want to continue to play if you are better than the other teams?

How many seasons should it take before a manager who is better at managing than you has a better team and is doing better than you?

My take was that management sims should always be about the best manager winning not the one who has been here the longest. Obviously you disagree with me.


cavaelen

As to your last point if you reread my post i was actually talking within a single league.

"What you do between each league level would still need to be determined."


trueblue55


Agreed. It looks bad now (and it really IS an issue) but there will come a time when the ceiling will be reached and teams lower down will catch those big guys. This same thing happened at HA early on, and it's balanced out a bit there, so it "can" work.

But something DOES need to be done to help make things more competitive for newer / weaker teams.



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