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Arena / Stadium is definitely a problem in game economy. They cost way too much compared to expected income. Past some point, it appears to be a waste of money to invest there since you're left behind people investing only in facilities.
As a consequence, sponsor remains the only stable revenue. Or market, but I don't really enjoy boosting 1 atty players to sell them at a decent price... It would be more fair if you could expect more from arena vs. market, maybe we would see less junk in it.
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True, however, in real life when a team makes a major upgrade to a stadium it can take years to cover the costs of that upgrade.
Yeah that is true. But it they perhaps boosted the arena economy teams like you who have an insane amount of expenses per day wouldn't seethe having to play scrubs like me in a friendly. Sine you would cover the cost of say, four staff members of yours.
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I think the city should pay for 95% of my arena expenses
In exchange they get all food and souvenir money


Money in the arena is like money in the bank. It ain't helping you today, but you'll be glad you put it there when you're 65.
I am finding significant differences between hockey and football. In hockey ticket sales represent 25% of my incomw. Souvenir sales I get a few hundred dollars a game. In football my ticket sales are larger than my sponsorship money by a little bit. I am getting $35,000 for my league home games in souvenir sales.
I want to increase my football stadium to 12,000 but it will cost $11,000,000. Of course I don't have the cash. Based on selling at 50% of capacity increased revenue would be $120,000 per home league game plus souvenie sales of say 10 grand the payout is 84 home league games. ( 4 years). Friendlies may reduce it to 3 years. I am hoping that there will be an adjustment to sponsorship money for next year.
I want to increase my football stadium to 12,000 but it will cost $11,000,000. Of course I don't have the cash. Based on selling at 50% of capacity increased revenue would be $120,000 per home league game plus souvenie sales of say 10 grand the payout is 84 home league games. ( 4 years). Friendlies may reduce it to 3 years. I am hoping that there will be an adjustment to sponsorship money for next year.
As PMul said, it is a long-term investment. I would make cheap-mid-range investment into your stadium now. Nothing fancy, just low level high seats:cost ratio. Then once facilities get more expensive fork some cash into your stadium. Just my 2c.
Gadalf it will balance out, everyone is really low on sponsor money because we all started with super small OR - it will increase at a much better pace next season and exponentially from here on out.
I understand I have built a 9600 seat stadium already. Will grow as money allows. I expect sponsorship to increase next year hence my HR will be at level 6 for the negotiation period.
Completely separate a strange thing happened on my hockey calenday yesterday. On 4 dates including tomorrow I had friendlies booked and the calendar changed to say that the day was reserved for a league game. Today the 4 dates show no games and I cannot book one for tomorrow. What the !!!!! happened.
i think not we are realy bad teams when you thiink about it our players are not that good they will in the futur and that'S why they are pay like players in junior league (in reality)
If you think about it, most teams seem to operate like junior teams (CHL), in the fact that they will get players from the youth system at 15-16, and play them usually until 20, when they will sell them.
That would be a great suggestion to add. Maybe have a farm system for player under 18, which do come from the academy only (can't buy nor sell player under 18) (which would in turn have a real impact when someone decide to upgrade said facilities) and have the actual team which is 18 and up only with retirement under 40. Make revenu tied to arena capacity only and not sponsors so that a "GM" has the hard choice of choosing facilities or arena.
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