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Play with reservations is different, perhaps a form of ambiguous "cheat"...playing with 10, you expose your intention clearly.

Gosht says it was a mistake so.. if it's true.. he had no intention of playing with 10, but only to play with the reserves

So Gosht says he had no intention and it´s ok for you. (though if you look at the whole map it is clear it was his intention).

And you get to the conclusion we would have complained anyways if he had put 11 subsitutes. Poor comment.

It's my opinion..
You have the right to have yours..i've the right to have mine..

Unless you have any relevant proof that he is lying, i'll keep mine.

Just one more thing, you are biasing the perception that all the non-Spanish readers have about this situation.

It's true Gosht said in the forum before the match that Peru were going to play with 10 players, but you "forget" to say that he said that already on Saturday.
You may also know that on Saturday you cannot call any more players for the match. If he only had 11 players called (1 of them suspended), he could not make anything on Saturday to solve that problem.

Like I said, I have no idea if it was a mistake or if he really want to bemefit Taiwan..but in my opinion, unless you have relevant proofs, you are just making assumptions.

I´m not biasing anything, just telling the facts as they were.

Please show me just one NT match played without substitutes. No one do that. Substitutes algo gain training points. There´s no reason to play without them.

Unless you put only ten players on the field and want to be sure that noone will replace the missing one.

The proofs are quite relevant. His intentional action left us without any chance to qualify.

This can not happen in any sport neither in any aspect of life. That´s why we all learn values.

And any logical explanation why he called only 11 players? Why he voluntarily gave up 11 NT bonuses?

Btw. when is final tournament sure for some team, it is nothing special to play with C team players or with very low match importance. It is advantage for these teams for quick qualification... But this Peru case is very very strange and I undertstand RubioJefe feelings.

What happened in that game is of no benefit to anyone.

The game should have been competitive, in keeping with sporting tradition and in the spirit of the game.

It should not have happened, but that is only my opinion.

This is how I see it:

Having already clinched first place, Peru chose to rest their A-squad. In resting, he chose to not activate those players for the game, thus making them ineligable to be substitutes. The suspended player was probably not taken into account when he made the line-up.

He fielded his B-squad, played those players at their proper positions, constructed an accepted formation, and played Very High importance.

NT managers make mistakes, I know I have.

To me, this looks more like an error than blatent cheating.

Is it a virgin situation?
I already saw managers calling 0 players continuously.. and nobody cared about that.

Also, if he wanted to lose on porpuse..why not call 0 players? Why not play in very low importance? Why not place players in wrong positions?
I think we should deal with facts, not with "if's"

It is almost virgin situation And I watched almost each NT report of tournament or qualification match ever played It happened maybe 1-2 times, both was manager mistake, no intention. Or where you saw it?
And I remember that somebody cared (one manager was upset because his players didnt get chemistry because of this)

Playing very low is nothing strange, I do it often in NT But when I play very low I do it for my team, not to impair my rivals...

And you didnt answered my qustion

I thought it was on purpose, it was a lack of shame that the coach of Peru and must be punished this act he committed.
We the team last season in the Brazilian challenger could have eliminated the Czech Republic and Bulgaria, but prefer to use the flair play, play and very high reserves, not to hurt the other teams, even if it made ​​it difficult our lives in the future.

There obviously isnt enough evidence to punish him and even if there was, you should stop these accusations of cheating in public. Take it to GM's in private, please.

may not have intentionally but there fault.
not because he had to take the entire cast to match, errors like this are likely to start being used as excuses for other occasions. if there is no punishment that can record such facts vain to repeat increasingly, and will have more frames that will be covered up with the same justification.
do not forget that the next selection to be impaired is yours.

I actually really dont care if it was on purpose or not, just take it to GM's who are ONLY ones who can decide whats cheating and whats not and keep this forum clean. It is forbidden by rules to accuse anyone of cheating in public, so please lets follow it.