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  Asunto: Football Formation discussion


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intresting :D


Usuario PRO Serbia ZIVKO93


4-3-3 looks like best here :)


HIGUERA


It happens a lot, and makes sense in my eyes... it's easier for 1 forward to be "caught" than for 2 or 3 ;-)


wiliambc


yes but wasnt the foward in ofside...but midfilders and defenders 60/40


trolek

i think that best formation has 3 forwards. or at least 2, but very good miedfield. i think 3 defenders are also better than 4. you gain in other parts of game that difference. what do you think?


trueblue55


Completely disagree.

If PPM have based their engine on real life dynamics, then the optimum formation will be either 4-4-2 or a variation of that.

4 defenders is played in almost all major formations. The midfield will often be split between defensive mid and attacking mid, as well as the wings.

I personally play a 4-1-2-1-2 formation, where my midfield has a defensive mid, 2 wing mid and an attacking mid, and then my 2 center forwards.

Or, i'll use 1 center forward, add a second attacking mid.

If i do use 3 forwards, i'll drop my midfield to 3 and play the wings as well as a defensive mid.


trolek

well i think centering the power in miedfield is better then in defence. and forwards are in most teams worse then other parts because it's less of them. but meybe if the opponent plays only attacks on one side and makes this side strong it defeats your good miedfield. meybe in this part you lose then stupidly. but not against normal 442 formation.
i didn't try different formations enough before so now i did a difference lately and 352 and 343 actually turned out good. i admit, i am not an expert, that's why i am asking here if it's good, but i really think it works. but it's very possible i am wrong.


trueblue55


The best formation is always one that is designed to shut down your opponent while giving you a good chance to score.

If i am playing a very strong opponent, I will play 5 defenseman (2 wing, 2 CB and 1 CB who plays up near the midfield), 4 midfielders and just 1 forward.

My game 2 days back against Cav is a great example of this formation. He had a much stronger midfield than me, but he could not get any shots on net because of my incredibly strong defense.

If i am playing a weaker opponent, i'll often put another guy up front or in the midfield.

Same goes for how a team plays. If I know my opponent prefers to play down the wing instead of the middle I will adjust my formation to add more strength on the wings.


trolek


aha ok but if you are matched with opponent and would like a result and you know he usually plays normal attacks, what formation would you choose? 4-1-2-1-2? and i think against weak opponents at least it's better to make sure you have good forward. anyhow, i think the same, against stronger opponent you need minimum 4, better more defenders. simply because you are defending the result.
btw for me it didn't seem like cav was much better than you. you look matched for me, but i didn't observe the teams enough.


trueblue55


He and I are pretty evenly matched, but he does have a stronger midfield than me, and in most games, has come off with the win.

In 95% of my games I will play 4 D, 4 M and 2 F. The only variations will often be how i play midifield. Usually it's 2 wings with a mid up and a mid back, but that's because i have a midfielder who has a very high shooting attribute, so is like a 3rd forward in many ways.


trolek


your tactick didn't work for me today when i played against stronger opponent. meybe i don't have so good defence, but i think you were just better in that match


cavaelen


the red card i got part way through the first half to my RM didnt help me. Meant i didnt win the midfield battle like i usually would and gifted the win to tb.

That said - tbs tactics are pretty good - he is using his strengths to his advantage.

Not everyone has a great defense. If you have better midfielders then focus on dominating that part of the pitch.


trueblue55


Well said :)


wiliambc

it will be nice put arows defensive or ofensive in the players, in the calcultions of the game that will represent a bonus for the choose, ex: odensive arow= +20% atack, -20% defense


Usuario PRO Brasil jorgenius


Indeed. Something to think about for the future versions of this new sim.



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